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ipsi() –

I don’t believe it’s actually illegal. It’s just enough of a pain that most people don’t bother, I
think. But it’s not a crime to unlock your phone.

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imron –

I believe it is actually illegal, at least in some places, for phone companies to not provide an
unlock code if requested, although they usually charge you for the privilege. Courts have also
upheld the right of consumers to unlock their phones.

simonlaing –

I think I would follow Roddy’s advice and just buy a cheap phone when you get here there are
simple ones for 300-500 yuan $40-60 and then you can buy prepaid cards or just go to a Unicom or
telecom store and add money on to your phone as you need it.

100 yuan lasts me about 20 days of moderate calling and there is no minimum or maximum to add.

(Check though if you want roaming or not as different plans charge differently.)

xianu –

I was in China for a short time last summer, and just unlocked the phone and got a SIM card there.
It was super easy, and I called friends and contacts in China, as well as home to the US. It is
not illegal in the least to unlock your phone. The problem is usually that the carriers give you
these cheap offers with expensive phones in exchange for you signing a contract with them for 1 or
2 years. What they don’t want is for someone to get a great deal on a phone, with all the rebates,
etc., and then in 2 weeks or a month, just cancel the contract and switch companies, which you can
do once you unlock the phone and switch SIM cards. If you have been a customer for a while, and
will only be gone for a little while (I plan to do this agan this summer when I am in CHina for 5
weeks), then call or contact your phone company (web chat works, too), and they will determine if
you are eligible to get the unlock code. If you qualify (that is, been with them for long enough
and won’t be gone for very long), they will give you the unlock code. I did it last summer with
Tmobile, and just got my phone unlocked this weekend with AT&T (I switched back in november). IT
is really easy and really cheap, and by far the easiest way to deal. You just need to check that
your phone is compatible (usually tri and quad bands are fine for CHina) with Chinese phone
systems. The problem is that US symbian phones generally cannot read Chinese text messages, so you
will have to either use pinyin, english or old fashioned voice to communicate.

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Lu –

I just went to see it and enjoyed it all the way. Bad Hongkong movies have a special place in my
heart, and this was possibly the best bad Hongkong movie ever. Actually it was a bad Hongkong
movie on top of a bad Hollywood movie (I haven’t seen more than five minutes of Karate Kid, but it
must be something like this), and it was great fun.

The stupid white kid doesn’t get in the way too much, so that’s good. Actually they might as well
have left him out altogether, no way this movie is going to work in the west, stupid white kid or
not. The fights are great. Too bad Jet Li and Jackie Chan only get one fight against each other,
and also too bad that Chan doesn’t get to fight with chairs and other unlikely props, like he does
so well.

But yeah, don’t go for the story. But anyway who needs a story in a wushu movie, that can only get
in the way.

Other characteristics of the bad HK movie are bad dubbing and bad subtitles. The dubbing was
indeed bad, and I wonder where from, Chan speaks Cantonese but Li was a Beijingren last time I
checked, and what else does the stupid white kid speak than Mandarin? The subtitles were really
really bad, and what on earth was up with Jin Yanzi referring to herself in the third person all
the time in the English titles.

Anyway I enjoyed it a lot, but in a way Li & Chan deserved a better movie.

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ZDT: Annotator Error with 说
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flameproof –

When you use the Annotator 说 will be translated to “shui4″. Which is maybe not outright wrong,
however, in most cases it should be “shuo1″.

It’s not a ZDT problem, rather a CEDICT DB problem. But for those which use the Annotator function
often certainly a nuisance.

Solution: the technical knowledgeable can open die CEDICT file and just swap the two entries.

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jbradfor –

There are tens if not hundreds of characters that have multiple pronunciation; how should ZDT
handle them? Putting the most common one first is probably a good idea, and for many characters
that will probably be good enough. But what about 相, 調, 重, 長, 者, and 得 in which the
multiple pronunciations are common?

See http://www.fudao100.cn/Article_Print.asp?ArticleID=4786 for example.

jbradfor –

Another thought. I have come across several entries in the CEDICT dictionary that I think may be
wrong; they are typically either duplicate entries, or there is a definition that belongs to a
related entry. [e.g. for 丼 it gives a definition as 'well'; I believe that is not correct as 井
means well.] Is there a way to correct them?

flameproof –

jbradfor
You are of course right. For 话 it’s very obvious that the shuo1 should come first, for others
you have to check case by case. That’s maybe the problem with all automatic translations.

But, what would be cool would a function to make it easier to edit the CEDICT DB. Now I open the
cedict.script file with notepad and do a manual editing.

Anyone has a better solution?

Luobot –

Quote:

I have come across several entries in the CEDICT dictionary that I think may be wrong; they are
typically either duplicate entries, or there is a definition that belongs to a related entry.
[e.g. for 丼 it gives a definition as 'well'; I believe that is not correct as 井 means well.]
Is there a way to correct them?

I’m not sure that I have a better solution but in looking for one, this is what I found:

First, take a look at the following page: MandarinTools

Note that it contains a link for new entries: automated submission page

… and a link to join a mailing list “to discuss issues related to CEDICT, including specific
dictionary entries … as well as possible future directions for the CEDICT project.”
-> CEDICT mailing list info page

I believe that ChineseTools of MandarinTools is also a member of this forum.

Additions and corrections via MDBG can be made here.
Here is the MDBG link for improvements.

Finally, you can download the updated version of CEDICT from either MandarinTools or MDBG, and
then, I think, there should be a way to import the updated version into ZDT.

Of course, Chris of ZDT is the best one to discuss all this with.

bogleg –

I don’t really recommend editing the dictionaries by hand because in the future if I update the
dictionary you’ll lose all your changes if you’re not careful.

I think participating in editing CEDICT is the way to go, and will benefit the whole Chinese
learning community in general. I can update the cedict plugin when people request it.

Chris

jbradfor –

Luobot, thanks for that information. I’ll take a look.

Bogleg (Chris), which version of CEDICT is used in ZDT now? Can I install the latest version? I
figure I should ensure I’m using the latest version before I comment on it.

bogleg –

Hi Jeff,

I’ve just updated the CEDICT plugin to the Nov 26th version of the CEDICT dictionary. The old
version was more than a year old I think. It has 55,000 entries which is double the amount of
entries as the old version. Just download the new jar file and drop it into your plugins directory
and you should be good to go.

Chris

fireball9261 –

Quote:

When you use the Annotator 说 will be translated to “shui4″. Which is maybe not outright wrong,
however, in most cases it should be “shuo1″.

Sorry, but 说 could be pronounced as “shui4″ as in 说服. I agree it should not be the first
choice, but it was not wrong either.

丼 is a very old Chinese character and it does mean “well”. Again, it is not wrong, either.

jbradfor –

Luobot, thanks for the pointers on updating CEDICT entries. As you suggest, I followed the MDBG
link. Turns out they make it incredibly easy! Just lookup any word or phrase
(http://www.xuezhongwen.net/chindict/chindict.php), and in the results, on the far right in the
answer box, is a little pencil-and-paper icon. Just click on it to bring up a form to suggest a
correction. Really simple!

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